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There are 3 types of melee dmg in this game , crush slash thrust , if u look at your char info u ll see them right there, hammer, axe sword polearm blunt blades and so on are not types of dmg .
1. I m gonna have to have a word with Blue then  or start testing and make him talk with me ..yeah 2. The RA Tundra style is a style Very high dmg , simple as that but the unstyled dmg seems high or at least not what we hit in albion 2h. 3. Yeah engage is bogus i made the bug report w8ting 2 other confirmations..how many ppl actually play 1h might take another year 
I asked them the same , because whoever implemented it doesnt know the game mechanics of this game or they havent done it the same in all 3 realms , its a big issue and no dev came around to say anything so far.. like i said i dont hit for 450-500 dmg styled with my backs styles gr 1 with my arms and Flump has 30 str more then me at max as i m augm str 3 arms .. diff shouldnt be that high 30-40 dmg at max. Last edited by MotaroReloaded on May 10, 2017 18:34, edited 1 time in total.
Glacius ( previous acount name)
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There are 3 types of melee dmg in this game , crush slash thrust , if u look at your char info u ll see them right there, hammer, axe sword polearm blunt blades and so on are not types of dmg . lol no ******, my question for you was what type of dmg will a hammer do? its crush FYI, just like blunts is crush dmg. theres no hammer that will be effected from slash or thrust resist.... or from your logic hammer is not effected from resist at all due theres no hammer dmg type? whats wrong with you? Buddhazeng
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Btw using Talsyra s ecuation for unstyled dmg , its a website i trust : http://talsyra.tripod.com/daocmechanics ... anics.html
I took Flump bersy and my armsman s stats just to check what unstyled dmg i d get but remember this is the 100% mark referred by the weapon specialization section. If you are completely unspecced, then the damage variance of your weapon will fall between 25-125% of this 100% mark. If you are fully specced (or overspecced), then the damage variance will be 100-150% of this mark. unstyled dmg = EDPS * (your WS/target AF) * (1-absorb) * slow weap bonus * SPD * 2h weapon bonus 2000 weaponskill, 67 composite weapon specialization, using a 16.0 effective dps 5.8 speed two handed weapon attacks an opponent with 582 af wearing studded armor. Flump : 16.0 x (2000/582)x 0.81 x 1.114 x 5.8 x 1.435 = 412 dmg unstyled My arms : 1878 weaponskill, 57 composite weapon specialization, using a 16.0 effective dps 5.8 speed two handed weapon attacks an opponent with 582 af wearing studded armor. Disrupter: 16.0 x (1878/582) x 0.81 x 1.114 x 5.8 x 1.385 = 374 dmg unstyled This is the dmg we should make unstyled fully bufed VS a studded armour (including resists ofc) , but i can tell you one thing... i ve never hit studded for 374 unstyled with my arms if i add 16% resists to it ( slash pole) should be 322(-52) . This is the dmg i did with 1541 WS VS Flump a few days ago while soloing and caught his ass overextended ... with style 235(-54) Cripling blow hit ..if i put this 1541 WS in our formula i get unstyled dmg of 308 dmg and in this pic vs Flump my unstyled dmg is 212 dmg ..you can do it yourself change 1878 with 1541 in the formula above . So you tell me mr Dev Genjiro what game are we having here??? Why my arms hits for 212 dmg unstyled instead of 308 dmg , and mr Flump in mid does 500 ? Before i start suspecting mid tanks got buffed and the other realms got ******.  Glacius ( previous acount name)
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Flump : 16.0 x (2000/582)x 0.81 x 1.114 x 5.8 x 1.435 = 412 dmg unstyled + 20% Relic Bonus = 494 |
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412 unstyled is still absolutely f***ing ridiculous. Anyone arguing otherwise needs to go drink a gallon of bleach in order to save the rest of humanity.
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Wouldn't surprise me if there was something globally wrong with melee damage. Even during beta people were commenting on how ridiculous it was compared to spell damage in rvr. Tundra just is a good indicator of a larger probable bug. It would explain a lot as to why the server is where it is today. Everyone suspects it, hard if not impossible to prove, so just accept it.
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You are gold m8 , i ll buy you a beer , it is something wrong with melee dmg..and its hapenning since Uthg 1 when i made a thread saying 2h dmg is less then it should be and no dev believed me, i ll actually search for that thread of mine, as we speak i m taking 2 friends celric and scout to test our dmg. I had arms on live classic and ith 50 pole 50 thrust spec i was doing 500dmg with my back styles( ???) vs healers and shamans with template .. here i hit for 350 dmg(-??) its not right m8, and casters nuke me on 26% cold resists for 450 dmg which is live like , and later on rr6 ones with crit get up to 600+700 , aint right . I am a very stubborn ****** who doesnt accept things that easilly .. Glacius ( previous acount name)
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Well after tests 2h dmg in alb at least cause i havent tested other realms should be 40% higher then it is now, and 1h dmg should be 19% higher then it is now, but i m gona make a diferent thread about it . Just to let you know.
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=43531&p=431013#p431013 Glacius ( previous acount name)
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Crying about Tundra style is just pathetic.
It has 1.808 growth rate. 10 min dur can get fumbled, miss, PBT , blocked, evaded and parried. Flumps 1670 hit is with a very high crit % close to 99%, 400+ str, 5.8 spd, and low QU in template. In 1.65 defeners rage is 1.20 or 1.25 even growth rate and spammable all day long. I honestly highly doubt the devs will do anything to this RA after they have reviewed it in detail. Post some screens of armsmen capped unstyled dmg on lvl 1 mobs and cap dmg on defenders rage. Cherry picking your lowest dmg hits using a 0.45 growth rate style is just silly. /edit Just did the math for your crippling blow hit and it gives a growth rate of 0.27 wich is too low. If I were you I would look into your growth rates on all your 2h and pole styles instead of crying about berserkers. Your hit on flump with correct growth rate should be: 276,76(-63,24) = 340 total dmg without resistance. Extrapolating that hit onto defenders rage 1.25 growth gives us a hit of 463,488(-104,512) = 568 total dmg without resistance. Add 49% critical to that, and we are looking at 463,488*1,49 = 690 dmg on a spamable style with resistance included and deducted of the total dmg. |
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THANK GOD SOMEONE REZZED THIS THREAD
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IF VP was working right it should one shot some people, but still doesnt even come close to this dmg IF it was working right, which it is NOT... VP is a joke on this server and needs to be fixed, especially if this style is in. Completely unfair. |
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Blue already replied in the issue tracker that they have the growth rate wrong and are looking at it. It will be fixed soon.
Posted by Blue at Thu, 18 May 2017 11:18:40 UTC 1670 damage in one swing (considering the critical) is too much. We don't have the proper growth rates for Tundra at hand so we have to guess. Will be tuned down a bit. |
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