Ashrack wrote:Poison : 43
Stealth : 40
Axe : 39
CS : 39

OR

Poison : 25
Stealth : 40
Axe : 39
CS : 39
LA : 35

Either I misunderstand your posting or you got a bit confused.
Stealth and envenom with level 50 and RealmRank 1 should be skilled at around 38. Then you have +11 from skills and with RR2 you have 50 stealth. More is not needed in PvP. For every realm rank gained you can lower stealth/env by 1 and put the skillpoints somewhere else.
You can use lvl 50 poison if you have skilled 39 in envenom and have +11 skills on your items.

So no, none of these specs are viable at all because of a lot waisted points.

Hi!
Ok thank you for your answer. It was my next question as well about the poison.
But it's not good to put 40 in stealth for the Evade VI?
So if none of theme is good, how to spe my SB???

Thank you.

Ashrack wrote:Hi!
Ok thank you for your answer. It was my next question as well about the poison.
But it's not good to put 40 in stealth for the Evade VI?
So if none of theme is good, how to spe my SB???

Thank you.

You get Evade 6 with Level 40 (not 40 skillpoints in stealth) automatically. Only thing you gain when you skill 40 in stealth is "Safefall 4".

And how to spec your SB. Well there are plenty of threads about this here.

viewtopic.php?f=120&t=33907

I eard that the left axe is nerf in this patche. So is it useless to spec the LA? And better to focus on main Weapon and CS?

Ashrack wrote:I eard that the left axe is nerf in this patche. So is it useless to spec the LA? And better to focus on main Weapon and CS?

You'll find details about it on that post :

viewtopic.php?f=120&t=42501


And the conclusion is : if you plan to play with 2 weapons (i bet you do) you'll need LA desperatly. It's the skill line that affects damages the most even if you don't use a single LA combat skill (but you will, everybody loves to stun on evade ).

Equade wrote:

Wellzy wrote:CritBlades is the best spec for this patch. I tested it myself while lvling and ran the dmg data before and after a respec.

Speccing LA only increases the damage of LA styles and slightly increases the damage of your left hand swings. (swings every time regardless of LA skill for midgard).

Go critblade and use crit combat styles. High axe or sword. Put the anything left over into into left axe for the dmg boost.

Something like 44 weap 44 CS 34/34 12ish la.

Dumping all those spec points into LA just to get the welfare evade stun is not worth it. You lose out on a lot of dmg output.

Something worth mentioning on top of this point:

Composite weapon spec of 51 (i.e. 37 axe spec for rr4 with +11 from items) will give you the optimal dmg output for axes if you use styles from any other line (i.e. CS). Only spec above 51 composite if you intend to use styles from your main weapon spec line (and that wouldn't be advisable for a SB). This releases more points for CS spec.

what about composite stealth 51 or 50? i alway goes 51 as i swear it makes a difference vs other stealthers??

tvick wrote:what about composite stealth 51 or 50? i alway goes 51 as i swear it makes a difference vs other stealthers??

According to http://talsyra.tripod.com/daocmechanics/stealth_mechanics.html

Detection radius for an assassin looking for another one:
125 + ((your level - stealth level of enemy{cannot be negative}]) * 50)

Your lvl-enemy stealth lvl cannot be negative so it doesn't bring anything, pvp wise, to put more than 50 points into stealth.

Another question...

The points we spend in CS is it just to get the styles or does it have a influence on the damage?

For exemple, I'm RR2 (lvl 47 only ), I plan to phave 38 poison, 38 stealth, 38 axe, 39 LA (for the stun) and 25 CS. Is it viable or should be better to decrease the poison for exemple, to inscrease the CS? Do I will do more damage?

Thank you.

Ashrack wrote:The points we spend in CS is it just to get the styles or does it have a influence on the damage?

it has influence in the damage you do using CS styles

Ashrack wrote:Another question...

The points we spend in CS is it just to get the styles or does it have a influence on the damage?

For exemple, I'm RR2 (lvl 47 only ), I plan to phave 38 poison, 38 stealth, 38 axe, 39 LA (for the stun) and 25 CS. Is it viable or should be better to decrease the poison for exemple, to inscrease the CS? Do I will do more damage?

Thank you.

I would just go 21 cs and put the rest in la. You can use pillager instead of achilles heel. I wouldn't use garrote and ah for anytime if my cs was lower than 34

Ashrack wrote:Another question...

The points we spend in CS is it just to get the styles or does it have a influence on the damage?

For exemple, I'm RR2 (lvl 47 only ), I plan to phave 38 poison, 38 stealth, 38 axe, 39 LA (for the stun) and 25 CS. Is it viable or should be better to decrease the poison for exemple, to inscrease the CS? Do I will do more damage?

Thank you.

I started with a rr3 specc on lvl 50 and rr2. It was 32 env, 34 cs, 39 la, 37 axe, 37 stealth.

Regarding the situation I started the fight with 2h pa/backstab (casters) or with 1h pa/backstab. I have 5 1h mainhand weapons with me and 1 2h. It wasn't that easy and I lost a lots of fights against infis and ns when I did not have the first hit with pa.

After pa/ cd combo, I use 1 snowsquall, 1 pillager (to decrease combat speed), drink one endu reg potion and then do the doublefrost spam with cs evade as backup. (If stun from cd did not went through, I use comeback as backup).

With that playstyle I reached rr4 now, respeccing stealth and axe to 36, increasing env to 33 (+14 for highest debuff) and la to 40, since this is my main style line and higher specc = higher weapon skill = higher dmg. Just a little bit, but whatelse.

RAs are Str 2, Dex 2, MoPain 2, Dualist Reflexes 2, Purge, LW 1. Saving now for Str 3.

I don't know if this specc is better then others, just wanted to give a little bit of my experience now. I have fun to play the way I do and it works most of the times. Of course this specc is influenced by Excercias thread LA Penalty explained. Regarding the math, he's correct.