Just how i see it @ the moment every day. 500 People online, 3 Groups Hibs Zerging Emain, two Groups Hibs camping AMG Odins and if i managed to log out behind amg the other day i usually ran into more hibgroups camping uppland.

As long as they don't change relics it will stay like this. Relics outcompete everything else.

You guys broke my toy
He don't want to argue anymore !!

See what you did there ??
Forum will become boring again ... Gratz !

pweet wrote:As long as they don't change relics it will stay like this. Relics outcompete everything else.

Relics is a false issue imho. What have been done can be undone.
Alb has 0 relics and now they have 3 str, nothing is impossible.
If mid want relic back you just need to put aside your ego and start playing as a realm.

Nah not enuff mids left 2 grab a relic or hold we cant afford doors. Mid was 17% of the online population thursday night ahah. But i dig that long as we can field a group. I also dont want the relics back keep em

Hib keep defense mechanics (pbae + animist) combined with 3 pow relics is a monumentus challenge. A lot of us have a caster alt parked near Dun Dadga.

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Vitticus wrote:Hib keep defense mechanics (pbae + animist) combined with 3 pow relics is a monumentus challenge. A lot of us have a caster alt parked near Dun Dadga.

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I also think that those classes and specs are more accepted for that realm.

How many Ice Wizards have you seen? Earth? Not many Reavers either. Due to the perceptions and often reality of "this class won't get regular groups" people haven't really rolled the classes needed in order to break through such a siege. How the hell are a bunch of single target characters going to go up a stairwell covered with shrooms, Thornweed Field, while Hib casters with 20% dmg increase nuke everything into oblivion?

For Alb, I can only think of a few niche ways that require specific specs or RRs.

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Vitticus wrote:Hib keep defense mechanics (pbae + animist) combined with 3 pow relics is a monumentus challenge. A lot of us have a caster alt parked near Dun Dadga.

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I also think that those classes and specs are more accepted for that realm.

How many Ice Wizards have you seen? Earth? Not many Reavers either. Due to the perceptions and often reality of "this class won't get regular groups" people haven't really rolled the classes needed in order to break through such a siege. How the hell are a bunch of single target characters going to go up a stairwell covered with shrooms, Thornweed Field, while Hib casters with 20% dmg increase nuke everything into oblivion?

For Alb, I can only think of a few niche ways that require specific specs or RRs.

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He is right you know ... 8/10 ice wizz with moc can shut down alot of "inside keep" campers.
We tried a icewizz reroll session in february, but the xp rate was so slow, we gave up on it and focused only on main characters.
Who would loose 1 month of xp just for a few take/defend a relic fight (once a month) ?

Relic fights are more than just once a month during NA playtimes. We've been having back and forth zerg skirmishes weekly, if not multiple times per week.

NA might have population issues, but the Pacific and late night crews are tenacious bastards.

Budikah wrote:Relic fights are more than just once a month during NA playtimes. We've been having back and forth zerg skirmishes weekly, if not multiple times per week.

NA might have population issues, but the Pacific and late night crews are tenacious bastards.

Am sorry i rarely play NA, but am sure you got the idea.

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pweet wrote:As long as they don't change relics it will stay like this. Relics outcompete everything else.

Relics is a false issue imho. What have been done can be undone.
Alb has 0 relics and now they have 3 str, nothing is impossible.
If mid want relic back you just need to put aside your ego and start playing as a realm.

Your assumptions are wrong my dear.

Do you happen to know how Albs got the Str relics? Certainly not by their own might. Right, Hibs got all Mid keeps and Albs snacked it. (Or it was a joint effort)



The relic situation will remain forever like it is now. We have made numerous attempts the past weeks, but just can't bring the numbers. Always getting outnumbered no matter what point of time/timezone 1:2 and 1:2.5.

Relics are indeed the main and only issue. That, and that Midgard runs zero casters. As someone else said before here, you will never win in a keep with a bunch of single target melee characters vs 90% caster enemy force.

But there's also a good part in all of this, bunch of newcomers that want to RvR because they have suddenly relics which are so easy to farm, easy Rps.

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It's kinda ironic isn't it ?
The first two month of this server was mid with 6 relic & perma DF with 12 keeps average.
Everyone was saying ... the server is f**** mid will always keep all the relics, no challenge for them, no chances for us.

Well ...
You are now without relic for 10 days, and you are the first to say : it will never change we are doomed.

Took 60 days to the other realms to stabilize a bit, and 180 days for mids to have 0 relic at all for a significative amount of time.
Please, don't give up after 1 week of "trying". Considering the 6month of "trying" for the other realms..

Btw : i don't care about relic personally, my class do 0 damage / 0 heal anyway.

Aww Danteafk crying about relics, oh the irony.

Well it's his favorite set, if his group fail on pushing.

only good groups on this server was prime, buds, dark dawn, voco, and boyos while they were on mid...everything else was easily beatable by full pug groups.