BG´s cant kill RvR as there is so few ppl in BG´s so if 6-7ppl is kill 50 RVR imao

So, if all the people complaining about how theres not RvR and they do something else instead, actually logged into the Frontiers and started RvRing, I believe the problem would be fixed. Yes, there aren't as many players as in the beginning but thats just normal..

Abydos wrote:We had similar on the website on Uth1. But we need to give this some work. I also tried at one point to make the in game /realmwar work but didn't get the client happy about it. Would be neat though.

If there is some web developer out there who would want to design and implement the realmwar map contact Blue to see if we still need a helper on that. I know we had some volunteers but not sure if they showed up to work :-p

Sure. I'm sure I can help with this.

I only play in the BGs now because it's the only place you can viably solo on this server. I've always hated grouping because lets be honest most of you are dumb.

honestly, id go big boy rvr if i could get to 50 with my already limited play time.

I know so many people who are exactly the same. Its a lot easier to get a twink to possibly lvl 41, and kitted out, then it is 50.

Im not saying the exp with that is the problem though, i feel its the community (as the above poster has already hinted)

I think we have the ruleset we want, we have everything we've asked for (the important stuff), the problem is now the community.

I have played on 2/3 realms, and the story is mostly the same, there is no understanding of sacrifice = overall gain. Sure theres a fair few who understand it, but its very rare.

For example, as a stealther, you want to see solo casters running around....now i only know 2-3 caster classes that would solo, and each rely on a group to level at a decent pace. Yes they can solo, but the mentality of every player is "Why go the long route when i can hold out for a PL/ fast lvl and use my time more effectively".

Now when you have a necro who is farming and refuses to respond to any messages, and even though exp isnt what he is after, he wont gorup you, thats where the problem lies.

I see it happen all too often - so please everyone stop complaining about RvR and think a little further....who do you need to RvR? players! who are you not helping because you're being selfish....players! yes you;re helping your realm, so theres no direct competition, but again, you do it on your end, trust in others and they do the same, suddenly we have a vibrant community.

Anyway, its time to stop pointing the finger and start looking at the community imho.

I dunno I think there's blame to go all around, people are selfish and don't wanna help others or other forms of toxic gameplay drives people away.

4fg of mids in cale earlier rolling as a battle group
Why does anybody need 4 full groups for an empty battle ground? This is an example of people making poor choices that drive other players away.

Also we gave hundreds of good suggestions of things we would like to see added and got straight up ignored, there isn't even a discourse on pros/cons of certain ideas, no discussion to think things through. They could at least give us reasons why some of our ideas aren't feasible. Why even have a suggestion thread if they are going to just ignore everybody?

burglekutt wrote:Why even have a suggestion thread if they are going to just ignore everybody?

Why they should ignore everybody? That would be self-destroying...

On-Topic:
I do BG, because i dont want fight High-RR with my creepy RR without Det.
And i dont know any positive effect when avoiding BG

BumblesZERG wrote:I only play in the BGs now because it's the only place you can viably solo on this server. I've always hated grouping because lets be honest most of you are dumb.

Not dumber than a exclusively solo player in a mmorpg.

Stoertebeker wrote:

BumblesZERG wrote:I only play in the BGs now because it's the only place you can viably solo on this server. I've always hated grouping because lets be honest most of you are dumb.

Not dumber than a exclusively solo player in a mmorpg.

He is not completly wrong when you see 8vs group that only play daoc as a emain arena .... No realm pride no help no real RVR only rps rps rps

gavanna wrote:

Stoertebeker wrote:

BumblesZERG wrote:I only play in the BGs now because it's the only place you can viably solo on this server. I've always hated grouping because lets be honest most of you are dumb.

Not dumber than a exclusively solo player in a mmorpg.

He is not completly wrong when you see 8vs group that only play daoc as a emain arena .... No realm pride no help no real RVR only rps rps rps

That is not what he wrote. It´s more a misanthrope attitude, and not very clever in a mmorpg like daoc.

Stoertebeker wrote:

gavanna wrote:

Stoertebeker wrote:
Not dumber than a exclusively solo player in a mmorpg.

He is not completly wrong when you see 8vs group that only play daoc as a emain arena .... No realm pride no help no real RVR only rps rps rps

That is not what he wrote. It´s more a misanthrope attitude, and not very clever in a mmorpg like daoc.

So there are rules that dictate how people should play in a mmorpg? In your world you play with a bunch of people to cover the fact that you are a crap player I'm sure. You don't play solo because you would be garbage. Or maybe you are an 8man player who cries when people add on a precious 8man fight!? Oh the horror.

See the difference between us is I learned long ago that when it comes to PvP i'm not going to sit on my ass for an hour while a group builds only to have 2 people go afk for a smoke break and then have another go LD while yet again having those two chain smoking monkeys go afk for a smoke break while they wait for the LD. I don't have that kind of patience. So I learned to play solo. If I have 4 hours or 30 minutes I can go out get a few kills and some RPs and have fun.

So my attitude is not misanthropic nor do I claim it to be clever, but you have proven my point about about most people who play this game are blatantly dumb.

BumblesZERG wrote:
So there are rules that dictate how people should play in a mmorpg? In your world you play with a bunch of people to cover the fact that you are a crap player I'm sure. You don't play solo because you would be garbage. Or maybe you are an 8man player who cries when people add on a precious 8man fight!? Oh the horror.

See the difference between us is I learned long ago that when it comes to PvP i'm not going to sit on my ass for an hour while a group builds only to have 2 people go afk for a smoke break and then have another go LD while yet again having those two chain smoking monkeys go afk for a smoke break while they wait for the LD. I don't have that kind of patience. So I learned to play solo. If I have 4 hours or 30 minutes I can go out get a few kills and some RPs and have fun.

So my attitude is not misanthropic nor do I claim it to be clever, but you have proven my point about about most people who play this game are blatantly dumb.

There is a lil difference between us, i did not call most of my other realm mates dumb without even getting in touch with them.

It`s the same as if i would say *From my long experience with women they`re all dumb and just 3 holes on 2 legs*, not really nice, nor clever and far from reality.

If you don`t have the patience, learn it. It`s never to late, even for a 70y old.

I guess if u think ur realmmates are dumb means u don't grp with the "l33t" people coz u aint good enough?? and about mids loosing relics and not rvr'ing?? I am a witness we roam every ****** night
so does DG..so does many mid pugs but we never find enemies,unless u mean the 3-5fga on stick .

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