scared of a champion? lol

Tool999 wrote:

Cirath wrote:

Tool999 wrote:
its not possible to do 2 crit shots in a row, u expert....and no, NS, INF and Minstrel are the easiest way to do solo rps...

This is incorrect, it is, and always has been possible to land multiple crit shots in a row on player characters as long as they are not moving or engaged in melee combat. (stunned in melee combat works too, same as with bolts). It was like this during classic live as well. try it. Find some caster not paying attention at a siege and profit. You can't que up multiple crits in a row though like a trained monkey. you have to manually load each one.

Wrong, there is hidden 10 seconds delay for critshots, so u can only crit, normal, crit. tested enough on hunter. Second critshot allways hits as normal attack. if works for ranger/scout, itsbroken just for mids?

Just tested this on the target dummy. There is no delay in Crit shot...ie
Hit Crit Shot -> Hit Arrow to release
/repeat

You can do this with no delay...that does not mean a real target will not do something after the 1st shot hits to prevent the 2nd one...at least for a Ranger...but I have a hard time believing there is a different archery mechanic between realms? (I guess stranger things have happened).

Note there still is that weird text after you fire every crit shot that says "you abort your crit shot". Not sure why it does that or if it works that way on live...

see chat log below...last one was a regular shot:

[10:12:24] You prepare a critical shot
[10:12:25] You prepare your shot (4.6s to fire, target is in range)
[10:12:27] You will now automatically release your shot.
[10:12:30] You shot the training dummy with your shimmering Hawk duskwood Heavy Recurve Bow and hit for 413 damage!
[10:12:30] You abort your critical shot
[10:12:34] You prepare a critical shot
[10:12:34] You prepare your shot (4.6s to fire, target is in range)
[10:12:37] You will now automatically release your shot.
[10:12:39] You shot the training dummy with your shimmering Hawk duskwood Heavy Recurve Bow and hit for 380 damage!
[10:12:39] You abort your critical shot
[10:12:41] You prepare a critical shot
[10:12:41] You prepare your shot (4.6s to fire, target is in range)
[10:12:45] You will now automatically release your shot.
[10:12:46] You shot the training dummy with your shimmering Hawk duskwood Heavy Recurve Bow and hit for 403 damage!
[10:12:46] You abort your critical shot
[10:12:47] You prepare a critical shot
[10:12:47] You prepare your shot (4.6s to fire, target is in range)
[10:12:51] You will now automatically release your shot.
[10:12:53] You shot the training dummy with your shimmering Hawk duskwood Heavy Recurve Bow and hit for 370 damage!
[10:12:53] You abort your critical shot
[10:12:57] You prepare your shot (3.8s to fire, target is in range)
[10:12:57] You will now automatically release your shot.
[10:13:01] You shot the training dummy with your shimmering Hawk duskwood Heavy Recurve Bow and hit for 219 damage!

We did a whole morning of testing with 3 rangers. Respeccing etc.

If u spec 40+15 bow or 12+15 only matters like 80dmg.
Using rapidfire takes a target faster down than normal fire.
Crit shot can be done allot as long as target dont move or engage.
However the cancel Message always shows.

Speccing CD only affects CD dmg and probability.
(From 18 to 39 gave about 30% increase on offhand hit)
Speccing lower Pierce (39 to 18/19) did allmost not affect dmg on Bumblebee.
Bumblebee is most effective style compared to anytimes.
(Allthough bumblebee has no follow up, endu Use is so low and dmg is higher, but no follow up).
Dex is confirmed to adjust bow dmg. Big time.

Difference between 1+15 stealth and 35+15 was not as big as expected.
Allthough it shouldnt, dmg with and without af buff was different.

helvner wrote:scared of a champion? lol

I know right?

Tau wrote:We did a whole morning of testing with 3 rangers. Respeccing etc.

If u spec 40+15 bow or 12+15 only matters like 80dmg.
Using rapidfire takes a target faster down than normal fire.
Crit shot can be done allot as long as target dont move or engage.
However the cancel Message always shows.

Speccing CD only affects CD dmg and probability.
(From 18 to 39 gave about 30% increase on offhand hit)
Speccing lower Pierce (39 to 18/19) did allmost not affect dmg on Bumblebee.
Bumblebee is most effective style compared to anytimes.
(Allthough bumblebee has no follow up, endu Use is so low and dmg is higher, but no follow up).
Dex is confirmed to adjust bow dmg. Big time.

Difference between 1+15 stealth and 35+15 was not as big as expected.
Allthough it shouldnt, dmg with and without af buff was different.

1. 40 vs 12 bow being 80 damage - over how many shots was this damage verified?
2. 39 vs 18 pierce - over how many hits was this damage verified? Also how much/little is no damage? 5-10 out of 50 dmg? or 5-10 out of 120 damage? It makes a rather big % difference.
3. the AF damage influence - was this AF increase on attacker or defender?

Tau wrote:We did a whole morning of testing with 3 rangers. Respeccing etc.

If u spec 40+15 bow or 12+15 only matters like 80dmg.
Using rapidfire takes a target faster down than normal fire.
Crit shot can be done allot as long as target dont move or engage.
However the cancel Message always shows.

Speccing CD only affects CD dmg and probability.
(From 18 to 39 gave about 30% increase on offhand hit)
Speccing lower Pierce (39 to 18/19) did allmost not affect dmg on Bumblebee.
Bumblebee is most effective style compared to anytimes.
(Allthough bumblebee has no follow up, endu Use is so low and dmg is higher, but no follow up).
Dex is confirmed to adjust bow dmg. Big time.

Difference between 1+15 stealth and 35+15 was not as big as expected.
Allthough it shouldnt, dmg with and without af buff was different.

Did you happen to note your weaponskill value 40 bow vs 12 bow? I would think there would be a large difference...and I would hope weaponskill plays a larger factor in dmg output...

@Arven good fight at amg, idk if your ip was down or w/e but my bard pulled victorious

-Moons

helvner wrote:@Arven good fight at amg, idk if your ip was down or w/e but my bard pulled victorious

-Moons

Shadowblades dont get ip. Sbs dont get any useful timer based ra besides purge. Infils get vanish and nightshades get avoid pain and viper. But hey guess what! at least sbs get to use twohanders which are evaded and blocked most of the time

helvner wrote:@Arven good fight at amg, idk if your ip was down or w/e but my bard pulled victorious

-Moons

yes i knew what will come ....ip,melos and a tough fight that you won with 5% left ......maybe we see us again .....without 5 relics in the back but yeah was a fun fight .....

PS: would love to the the QQ if we would have ip

Fun fact: Assassins used to have IP pre 1.65, but the wailing and gnashing of teeth by the keyboard turning hordes was so great that it was taken away. That is why they are the only non caster classes without access to it.

It was a way to balance the typical skill gap between assassin players and your average BG member back in 2003. Assassins tended to be better than average players. Here on Uthgard where the average skill level is (hopefully) higher than in 2003, it would be interesting to see how assassins perform with IP.

It isn't going to happen, but I would love to see it

baracked wrote:

helvner wrote:@Arven good fight at amg, idk if your ip was down or w/e but my bard pulled victorious

-Moons

Shadowblades dont get ip. Sbs dont get any useful timer based ra besides purge. Infils get vanish and nightshades get avoid pain and viper. But hey guess what! at least sbs get to use twohanders which are evaded and blocked most of the time

I'll trade you vanish for 75 str con and I'm probably the only Infil that uses it.

gumby wrote:

baracked wrote:

helvner wrote:@Arven good fight at amg, idk if your ip was down or w/e but my bard pulled victorious

-Moons

Shadowblades dont get ip. Sbs dont get any useful timer based ra besides purge. Infils get vanish and nightshades get avoid pain and viper. But hey guess what! at least sbs get to use twohanders which are evaded and blocked most of the time

I'll trade you vanish for 75 str con and I'm probably the only Infil that uses it.

You've destroyed me without it but yes I accept the trade

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Trishin wrote:

Tau wrote:We did a whole morning of testing with 3 rangers. Respeccing etc.

If u spec 40+15 bow or 12+15 only matters like 80dmg.
Using rapidfire takes a target faster down than normal fire.
Crit shot can be done allot as long as target dont move or engage.
However the cancel Message always shows.

Speccing CD only affects CD dmg and probability.
(From 18 to 39 gave about 30% increase on offhand hit)
Speccing lower Pierce (39 to 18/19) did allmost not affect dmg on Bumblebee.
Bumblebee is most effective style compared to anytimes.
(Allthough bumblebee has no follow up, endu Use is so low and dmg is higher, but no follow up).
Dex is confirmed to adjust bow dmg. Big time.

Difference between 1+15 stealth and 35+15 was not as big as expected.
Allthough it shouldnt, dmg with and without af buff was different.

1. 40 vs 12 bow being 80 damage - over how many shots was this damage verified?
2. 39 vs 18 pierce - over how many hits was this damage verified? Also how much/little is no damage? 5-10 out of 50 dmg? or 5-10 out of 120 damage? It makes a rather big % difference.
3. the AF damage influence - was this AF increase on attacker or defender?

1. over 1k shots
2. pierce .(bumblebee) 120-130(max) to about 110-118.
3. the AF buff was on defense (PF buff ranger)

i was under the impression assassin's had ip sorry
-moons

@turmscheutze

The first fight we had where i dragged you and your doggy half way across Uppland. Nice fight