Oswaldo wrote:Tbh server needs a wipe. Who feels like coming back fighting high realm rank people?

Not me

Agreed. I'm not playing until it's wiped. And I know at least a few guilds who agree with me

Nice one.. maybe ill be back once or twice.

It pains us that you only make changes when alternative servers gain traction (happened in 2014 with <voldemort 1> and now with <voldemort 2>) shows that you lack leadership and direction.

If you want to do this right:
-clean house, get a new GM staff
-wipe the server
-add QoL
-add SI
-email blast every single player and set a new launch date

albeyond wrote:

Oswaldo wrote:Tbh server needs a wipe. Who feels like coming back fighting high realm rank people?

Not me

Agreed. I'm not playing until it's wiped. And I know at least a few guilds who agree with me

If my chars are wiped again I never come back.
All casuals like me think like this. For the hardcore people without a family it doesn't matter since they just hang around in voicecom with their nerd friends and level once again...

I'd also, probably, won't come back with yet another wipe. I do not login often and when I login I am happy when I do like 1-3 bubs, which always felt like an huge achievement on Uthgard since I xp'ed mostly all alone. I just don't have the time to reroll all over again.

Let's make the best out of what Uthgard has become instead of wiping the server once again. I like most of the changes but I am OK with people complaining at the moment. That's something Uthgard has to deal with since actions were taken very late - but as we'd say in German "Better late, than never" So let's see what actual impact it has on Uthgard's pop. I hope a good impact.

But I really hope that Uthgard won't behave just the same like prior to these changes. I've the big hope that more communication will be fast part of the Uthgard project from now on. And more specifically that some staffies will stop looking down to others - sorry, even though I do always defend the staff this has been my impression throughout the last years. These news however are a big step towards the right direction and I hope more things to come.

Raku

I thought the news was quite clear in that. Why does this popup here again and again? Uthgard 1 was running 9 years and economy was extremely inflated. This was also due to leaks we found too late.

Uthgard 2 is quite young and runs proper, why should we wipe and delete progress of players? What would it change for anybody to level from 1 again? Does not make any sense.

Yeah, it was clear. Yet, I wanted to make clear that I'm also fully against a wipe because I think not it would change something. That's all what I wanted to say.

Raku

Blue wrote:I thought the news was quite clear in that. Why does this popup here again and again? Uthgard 1 was running 9 years and economy was extremely inflated. This was also due to leaks we found too late.

Uthgard 2 is quite young and runs proper, why should we wipe and delete progress of players? What would it change for anybody to level from 1 again? Does not make any sense.

The thousands of players who would consider playing here pending qol are have two things to consider:
1- play uthgard vs lots of high rank groups who have been here for a while exploiting imbalances you failed to address
2- start fresh on alternative server with those imbalances addresses from the start

Why bother playing here if you can play a fresh slate on an even playing field ?

@albeyond

Uthgard 3 would have the same high RR chars again at some point. So what's the point about that?

Raku wrote:@albeyond

Uthgard 3 would have the same high RR chars again at some point. So what's the point about that?

Eventually it should be left alone in the absence of massive changes, but the proposed changes and attempts to revive the population demand the server be wiped. If not, these changes won't do anything. Please screenshot this post so I can be proven right in the months to follow.

Again, it comes down to player psychology. You are giving me and the thousands of other shard players considering Uth vs. P-server two choices:

1- Uthgard 2.5 (lets call it that once you add QoL)
2- Fresh server start.

I would bet that 90% of the players currently not playing a freeshard will choose the fresh start. This isn't hard.

**EDIT** I would also like to add that not wiping the server to pander to the 150 players still here vs. not considering the hype that a fresh server has for the thousands of players who would play if you listened to them is the reason the server is now dead. You aren't making changes that benefit the majority, you are making decisions that the no-life minority (who will play either way) approve of. Remember, there is a discord with 1k+ players in it who don't play Uthgard waiting for another server to launch.

Albeyond, every server will run into the situation of high RR's. Its just a matter of time and not even a long time. You can't prevent skilled players and players with lots of time at hand to rise on the ladder and be high RR. You have just a small time window where you would be equal to them but you won't catch an expert player the more time is gone. Theres alot more that matters than just RR. A proper played set group can easily engage higher RR players with no problems.

Blue wrote:Albeyond, every server will run into the situation of high RR's. Its just a matter of time and not even a long time. You can't prevent skilled players and players with lots of time at hand to rise on the ladder and be high RR. You have just a small time window where you would be equal to them but you won't catch an expert player the more time is gone. Theres alot more that matters than just RR. A proper played set group can easily engage higher RR players with no problems.

I agree with most of that, I just want to recapture the population and strongly believe the only way to do that is with the hype of a fresh start.

And for the record I appreciate you being active on these forums again

I remember several of my deleted posts by staff about the direction of Uth. It's whatever you want and F us for asking. Now that pop is once AGAIN dead do we see a response. Promised updates on a regular basis, SI, blah blah blah. Since Uth1 we still dont have SI but we got Tajendi... The most interesting and creative construct built in a game I've ever played, but thats gone to oblivion too. Man so many good memories of a place created with passion and interest. If only those people were around to support your current visions. Alas we know how that ends up.. No updates, no MAJOR changes (Actual class abilities and RA fixes over item changes, etc). Truly this was a lab experiment from the beginning. Lets see how long it will take for them to get fed up.
Have no doubt I will troll Uth and kill the last xpers trying to get to 50 until they give up.

* I truly did enjoy Taj. Opening that up on a second server or portal to go there for non RvR items would be pretty cool. Maybe a trophy or something.

** Thanks for making the server in general. I do truly thank you for giving us a free stable server to play for years. Just a real shame it came to this so late.

Saw this linked elsewhere, thought it was a good laugh. Now that competition is on the horizon and shedding an additional 30% of your playerbase this last month you now want to actually listen to your community. Too little too late as they say.

1. do not wipe characters
2. shut down server for 6 months to a year
3. do as many QoL changes as you can during this time and reopen the server