Well you maybe do a little bit of 8v8 as long as you have 30% bonus and winning everything by default. See the slightest possibility of losing you will dodge again, disappearing for 30min after dumping everything, or just run with 9+ as usual. Nevermind, your playstyle.

Roby5869 wrote:... were running 12 men to fight hib 24 men zerg an...

Maria its ok, peace. Hope you guys come back as fg soon. Miss our fights and "ICHOR!!" calls in Discord xD

Nakja wrote:

Roby5869 wrote:... were running 12 men to fight hib 24 men zerg an...

Maria its ok, peace. Hope you guys come back as fg soon. Miss our fights and "ICHOR!!" calls in Discord xD

I miss too our fights, hope you're ok as well and ... pls don't run with too many pets

pweet wrote:Well you maybe do a little bit of 8v8 as long as you have 30% bonus and winning everything by default. See the slightest possibility of losing you will dodge again, disappearing for 30min after dumping everything, or just run with 9+ as usual. Nevermind, your playstyle.

Lol, the only thing we wait sometime is istant CC on the pach, and if i could tell you the truth, ichor has a 15 min timer and i bought purge when i was almost rr5.

Atm on Midgard there's only one group that can beat the alb or the hib 8 men. Not saying there is no mid groups out, many tries and thanks they do that, many from other realms should do the same imo.
And even if many here don't agree, Alb/hib good groups have it easy on this patch lvl.

pweet wrote:Well you maybe do a little bit of 8v8 as long as you have 30% bonus and winning everything by default. See the slightest possibility of losing you will dodge again, disappearing for 30min after dumping everything, or just run with 9+ as usual. Nevermind, your playstyle.

Yep, that's why Mid had the most 8v8 groups out when hibs had all the relics for weeks.

Valfar wrote:

pweet wrote:Well you maybe do a little bit of 8v8 as long as you have 30% bonus and winning everything by default. See the slightest possibility of losing you will dodge again, disappearing for 30min after dumping everything, or just run with 9+ as usual. Nevermind, your playstyle.

Yep, that's why Mid had the most 8v8 groups out when hibs had all the relics for weeks.

Mid grp eats hib grp

Hib grp eats alb grp

Alb grp eats mid grp

@maria: we also have a hard time running our pug and always have unexpierenced players with us if we even manage to build.
Don't overestimate/fear us, there is really no reason

Our all Intention is keeping Action up. Thanks for everyone who gives his/her Part to that.

Nerthos wrote:

Valfar wrote:

pweet wrote:Well you maybe do a little bit of 8v8 as long as you have 30% bonus and winning everything by default. See the slightest possibility of losing you will dodge again, disappearing for 30min after dumping everything, or just run with 9+ as usual. Nevermind, your playstyle.

Yep, that's why Mid had the most 8v8 groups out when hibs had all the relics for weeks.

Mid grp eats hib grp

Hib grp eats alb grp

Alb grp eats mid grp

@maria: we also have a hard time running our pug and always have unexpierenced players with us if we even manage to build.
Don't overestimate/fear us, there is really no reason

Our all Intention is keeping Action up. Thanks for everyone who gives his/her Part to that.

Good stuff, thx for trying to keep some of the regular action alive. Zergs are fun from time to time but it gets old really quick .

Nerthos wrote:

Valfar wrote:

pweet wrote:
Mid grp eats hib grp

Hib grp eats alb grp

Alb grp eats mid grp

Lucky for us Albs there is enough Mids atleast. Also strange how imbalanced weekly rps are when there is so few Hibs.

Roby5869 wrote:And even if many here don't agree, Alb/hib good groups have it easy on this patch lvl.

Don't believe your own mid propaganda ; )

Almost mid groups run the same, easy to build, play and most efficient setup. Do you realy wonder alb/hib prepared for that ? Each realm can beat the other in 8vs8 and right setup.

Nakja wrote:

Roby5869 wrote:And even if many here don't agree, Alb/hib good groups have it easy on this patch lvl.

Don't believe your own mid propaganda ; )

Almost mid groups run the same, easy to build, play and most efficient setup. Do you realy wonder alb/hib prepared for that ? Each realm can beat the other in 8vs8 and right setup.

Absolutely. However, when it comes to higher skill, alb/hib caster synergy and properly used 30 min re-use abilities, albs and hibs have a slight edge. I do agree that for lower or mid skill players midgard is the best option. Btw, I don't think the difference is anything really that great anyway and hmmm I think a lot of it has to do with slow heals and old RAs, which I'm not a fan of because all the realms have to aim to get a good inc because the inc has too much of an impact on the fight. Say what you will, but BOF is a bit too strong if properly used(2x in group, costs only 10 points) and GP is quite strong because of the long purge re-use timer in general, so one realm getting 2x GP is nasty. And well SOS is hmmm, rather strange. It's not logical to me at all that you can mezz or stun someone during SOS and they can still run, it also doesn't make sense that they keep their speed while hitting. Again, it's just a bit annoying and if there was more inc out there, I guess most groups wouldn't be able to count on these abilities so "often".

Nakja wrote:

Roby5869 wrote:And even if many here don't agree, Alb/hib good groups have it easy on this patch lvl.

Don't believe your own mid propaganda ; )

Almost mid groups run the same, easy to build, play and most efficient setup. Do you realy wonder alb/hib prepared for that ? Each realm can beat the other in 8vs8 and right setup.

We care only about having in group some decent players, sometime we run 2x skalds or 2x wars or even a Thane. The other day we had 2x wars and A Thane, and once we runned with 2x shaman. you know what i mean you also had to go out with 3x Sorcs once or 2x Cabbyes. And it's not true we stand there waiting 30 mins for RAs to be up.
Talking about SoS, it's strange yes but it is in line with this patch level. Working as intended even if later on Mythic told all of us that it was not implemented the way they wanted it to work and with New RAs they fixed it.

So you blame the players that mid has constantly 30% bonus, 50+% weekly RP, and in general over a year by far the most rp earned?
This has nothing to do with mid beeing easy to play, or server settings giving the strongest realm 20+% bonus for beeing the strongest realm?
Get real guys, mid is too easy to play, especially but not exclusivly on pug level which is all that is left on uthgard, and hence has way more players in rvr leading to 20%+ perma bonus.
If we get rid of this brainless 20% relic + keep bonuses to support the strongest realm making them even stronger, we can talk again.

Roby5869 wrote:

Nakja wrote:

Roby5869 wrote:And even if many here don't agree, Alb/hib good groups have it easy on this patch lvl.

Don't believe your own mid propaganda ; )

Almost mid groups run the same, easy to build, play and most efficient setup. Do you realy wonder alb/hib prepared for that ? Each realm can beat the other in 8vs8 and right setup.

We care only about having in group some decent players, sometime we run 2x skalds or 2x wars or even a Thane. The other day we had 2x wars and A Thane, and once we runned with 2x shaman. you know what i mean you also had to go out with 3x Sorcs once or 2x Cabbyes. And it's not true we stand there waiting 30 mins for RAs to be up.
Talking about SoS, it's strange yes but it is in line with this patch level. Working as intended even if later on Mythic told all of us that it was not implemented the way they wanted it to work and with New RAs they fixed it.

To be honest, if those three sorcs are not full mind and have at least split spec in body - let alone one of them full body - I'd prefer that setup over running two skalds and a thane any day of the week. Multiple sorcs with one cab is amazing if played decently.

pweet wrote:So you blame the players that mid has constantly 30% bonus, 50+% weekly RP, and in general over a year by far the most rp earned?
This has nothing to do with mid beeing easy to play, or server settings giving the strongest realm 20+% bonus for beeing the strongest realm?
Get real guys, mid is too easy to play, especially but not exclusivly on pug level which is all that is left on uthgard, and hence has way more players in rvr leading to 20%+ perma bonus.
If we get rid of this brainless 20% relic + keep bonuses to support the strongest realm making them even stronger, we can talk again.

For other realms: it's useless taking keeps in a zone and never claim them. Claiming a keep gives you bonuses, claiming a lot of keeps in the same zone gives even more and now even a 4 man group can do it. So yes it's also a question of brain and knowing how it works. And yes i blame the enemy players not the 20% bonus we have because of relics + the other 20% or more because of claimed keeps.

Low pop = Daoc placers are PVE players, they hate actual PVP

Daoc PVE = Very weak

Weak PVE = Low Uthgard pop

It has nothing to do with realms.