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Postby Valfar » Oct 09, 2018 00:34

Spacebrah wrote:
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Spacebrah wrote:You literally do not understand the arguments that you are arguing against. lol.


yes i do understand the arguments, ive heard the same for years, people have been complaining about this game since beta, ive heard so many arguments about class imbalance, realm population imbalance, this patch, that patch, but when i kill someone wearing epic or drops, not templated and they turn blue con, what do they expect? get to 50 , get templated, get organised and come and fight us!

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I was refering to Valfar recklessly throwing the word "commie" around while literally arguing against claims that haven't been made.

But while were talking about it... regardless of how it happened, the server is imbalanced and its driving people away. Everyone in this thread is arguing about WHY its imbalanced and completely missing THAT its imbalanced.

Perhaps the truth is that all of Alb and Hib are PvE vs Keep retards and perhaps all of Mid are just brilliant PvP strategists. Maybe this is actually the case. Statistically improbable, but perhaps.

So then working off the assumption that this is the case... you can continue reiterating that Alb and Hib need to "do this" or "do that" but at the end of they day THEY AREN'T "doing that", and the server pop is taking a hit for it. So Mids- as the brilliant PvP strategist that they are - can continue telling the retards what they need to do differently OR a portion of them can switch realms so at least there are SOME brilliant PvP strategist in each realm (mixed among the rest of the retards), leading to player BALANCE. Or maybe this player suggested, player supported, and player implemented suggestion is actually a communist one imposed by a "higher authority"?



Mid is full of noobs, but at least they go out and play, that's the difference. And ofc you all have commie mentality. Life is not balanced and things change all the time, deal with it. You can't artificially create a bubble where everything will be equal, it's up to players to actually play. Server population will always take hits. In this case, it has more to do with idiotic 1 charge pots, another free shard out there and summer that just ended, than it has to do with the number of mids. Things don't change over night, at least I don't whine like a ****** and call doomsday every time population drops.
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Postby Spivo » Oct 09, 2018 10:21

Well, lets pray Albion/Hibernia picks up again and starts playing.

Someone message me if the situation changes.
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Postby pweet » Oct 09, 2018 10:55

Spivo wrote:Well, lets pray Albion/Hibernia picks up again and starts playing.

Someone message me if the situation changes.

Just move to Midgard till it happens ;)
You ll have a lot of fun there, since yourdaoc skills will increase instantly like crazy like for every other mid, and you will start winning because of that so you will be happy to log in again!

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Postby Valfar » Oct 09, 2018 11:21

pweet wrote:
Spivo wrote:Well, lets pray Albion/Hibernia picks up again and starts playing.

Someone message me if the situation changes.

Just move to Midgard till it happens ;)
You ll have a lot of fun there, since yourdaoc skills will increase instantly like crazy like for every other mid, and you will start winning because of that so you will be happy to log in again!


Say, can you tell us the names of your main chars on uthgard1 and 2?
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Postby pweet » Oct 09, 2018 11:27

Valfar wrote:Say, can you tell us the names of your main chars on uthgard1 and 2?

Can forward you my AddedIn profile. Holsten and some others wrote nice recommendations if that shows enough street credibility ;)
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Postby Valfar » Oct 09, 2018 11:28

pweet wrote:
Valfar wrote:Say, can you tell us the names of your main chars on uthgard1 and 2?

Can forward you my AddedIn profile. Holsten and some others wrote nice recommendations if that's enough credibility ;)


As I thought, another ridiculous person and a professional whiner. Lot of vermin floating around these days, it is what it is.
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Postby Woosh » Oct 09, 2018 11:39

Valfar wrote:Say, can you tell us the names of your main chars on uthgard1 and 2?


Obviously he's not going to out himself out, people like him are Relvinian tier forum shïtposters ... big mouth on the forum, fail in the game - literally ashamed of their in-game results, blaming everyone and everything for their pathetic failure. Oh well, as long as the salt mines are open I'm satisfied. Let them cry and moan, it's like a symphony of baddies :lol:
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Postby Valfar » Oct 09, 2018 11:46

Woosh wrote:
Valfar wrote:Say, can you tell us the names of your main chars on uthgard1 and 2?


Obviously he's not going to out himself out, people like him are Relvinian tier forum shïtposters ... big mouth on the forum, fail in the game - literally ashamed of their in-game results, blaming everyone and everything for their pathetic failure. Oh well, as long as the salt mines are open I'm satisfied. Let them cry and moan, it's like a symphony of baddies :lol:


Say no more :D.
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Postby maxima » Oct 09, 2018 13:19

pweet wrote:
Spivo wrote:Well, lets pray Albion/Hibernia picks up again and starts playing.

Someone message me if the situation changes.

Just move to Midgard till it happens ;)
You ll have a lot of fun there, since yourdaoc skills will increase instantly like crazy like for every other mid, and you will start winning because of that so you will be happy to log in again!


They didnt realize we farmed all of them 24hrs befor ppl went to phoenix,
now ppl getting balls since they can farm romu zerk with 6 relics :lol: :hammer:
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Postby Valfar » Oct 09, 2018 13:25

maxima wrote:
pweet wrote:
Spivo wrote:Well, lets pray Albion/Hibernia picks up again and starts playing.

Someone message me if the situation changes.

Just move to Midgard till it happens ;)
You ll have a lot of fun there, since yourdaoc skills will increase instantly like crazy like for every other mid, and you will start winning because of that so you will be happy to log in again!


They didnt realize we farmed all of them 24hrs befor ppl went to phoenix,
now ppl getting balls since they can farm romu zerk with 6 relics :lol: :hammer:


I think you've missed the point of the discussion. Multiple times the point was made(by mids as well) that there were some strong Alb and Hib groups which had no problems farming mids and that the current Albs and Hibs are crying how it's impossible because of relics/patch level/RAs(lol). Btw, you don't seem very literate. Also it's not zerk, it's Zerg(a reference to a Starcraft race which is known for producing massive swarms of units), zerk is short for Berserker. Bye bye.
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Postby maxima » Oct 09, 2018 13:45

Dont get me wrong.

My Point of View is simple to this.. The strongest grps on this server was Alb/Hib 5 caster Setup`s
it was always like this if you miss the synergy, which is needed in a castergrp more then a simple zerker/svg push setup
then you fail. Right now atleast albs make simple mistakes in coordination and kiting ( 1 person get caught and its a snowball effect.. ) if a zerker/svg sticks you, you are dead and yes the relics are simply too strong dosent matter which realm it has it. Albs usally eat mids and hibs eat albs...
So no accusation against any Midgard player.

On Alb you need atleast 7 proper players they know what they doing, you just cant pug too much. In Mid it looks different. Right Now we dont have the players with the synergy.. but we working on that.

To be honest the only whinning from my side is.. its annoying to chase over and over again the two, more or less 8 man mids in the whole zone...

Thanks for the nerding advice about zerGGGGGs :-P
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Postby Valfar » Oct 09, 2018 13:54

maxima wrote:Dont get me wrong.

My Point of View is simple to this.. The strongest grps on this server was Alb/Hib 5 caster Setup`s
it was always like this if you miss the synergy, which is needed in a castergrp more then a simple zerker/svg push setup
then you fail. Right now atleast albs make simple mistakes in coordination and kiting ( i person get caught and its a snowball effect.. ) if a zerker/svg sticks you, you are dead and yes the relics are simply too strong dosent matter which realm it has it. Albs usally eat mids and hibs eat albs...
So no accusation against any Midgard player.

On Alb you need atleast 7 proper players they know what they doing, you just cant pug too much. In Mid it looks different. Right Now we dont have the players with the synergy.. but we working on that.

To be honest the only whinning from my side is.. its annoying to chase over and over again the two, more or less 8 man mids in the whole zone...

Thanks for the nerding advice about zerGGGGGs :-P


Agreed. Even on uthgard1, Albion group(whether hybrid or caster) on paper had strongest setup, but it also required more skill to utilize its full potential. Again, agreed on the relics. I honestly don't care who has them, even though it wasn't fun fighting hib caster groups while they had them xD, but my belief is that relics should be harder to get, should give way less bonuses and should be a combination of slight bonus + prestige, and not a game breaking feature. I'd remove any outpost RvR bonuses as well, they didn't work well even with 2k people online at any time, let alone with our population.

Even on uthgard1, mid always was zergy. The German alliance especially. But at least they didn't pretend they were some pro 8v8 players etc. and they did come out every night, even if they got wiped 10 times in a row. Upside of this was that the best groups often just switched realms that evening if there were too many people on mid and they'd still find 8v8 fights.

I assure you, there are 2-3 mid groups that do try and find 8v8 but often times we either don't find it or get caught by a zerg and well then we just merge 2-3 groups and hit all the keeps looking for zergs while we laugh at the parody this server has become and sarcastically yell "FOR MIDGARD" every time we take a keep.

I think new RAs and patch level we had on uth1 would help, but that still wouldn't fix the main problem, the fact that we lost many stable set groups along with casual players. I'm in touch with many and they literally don't want to have anything with uthgard because their characters were wiped after being promised multiple times that this will never happen. It took a lot of time for people to get their characters, templates, decent RR and many of them really didn't play all year long and had limited time due to RL. Some of or most still have the time to level 1-2 chars but they won't do so just on principle :D.

It is what it is, we've lost many 8v8 and solo oriented players(2 purest/fairest forms of the game in my opinion) and while on uth1 we had zergs, 8v8, solo, smallman...here it's mostly zerg and keep take. It is what it is, can't be helped and I think the Uthgard staff is still too stubborn and they have no clue how to make a somewhat balanced server and they still stick to blindly recreating some imaginary patch level.
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Postby Woosh » Oct 09, 2018 14:02

maxima wrote:So no accusation against any Midgard player.


... but this whole thread was made with accusations against Midgard players, and as you can probably see, most of the forum is full of it aswell ... but it is good to see someone from another realm not acting like this and actually acknowledging whats happening besides all the moaning and tears. The server needs people like you to prove them how wrong they are and also maybe you can educate your realm mates about RvR because right now they all sound like little girls. Cheers !
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Hasbulat wrote:As soon we come with a bit better organized random group all those Flamps and Holsteins just running away as soon they see us.

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Cyba wrote:Albion = Israel :D

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Postby maxima » Oct 09, 2018 14:15

to be honest i think a little of the population will come back, if i see how it is on the other freeshard right now.
the other server will end like genesis at some point.

i agree the uthgard staff is just too stubborn and dont listen much to the community or at a point when its too late.
The biggest problem for the most 8man players is the lack of qol changes and strict rules.
I know many players they would start again if there was some kind of account share possible.
We are not 14 anymore and can spend so much time into the game..

Its redic. for what reason`s ppl get a ban..
friend of mine get lfg ban for share rvr information.. rofl...
why not add a adivce chat ?!... but thats a other point.

...back to topic

the relic should in my opinion just give some bonuses to craft, xp maybe rp..

i think to make this server more enojyable for all kind of players would be big qol changes like they did early past. for example adivce chat, changes in xp gain, cancle time to port etc...
maybe make some events in special zone.. the other server had good pvp events in the past...
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Postby Spacebrah » Oct 09, 2018 17:38

Valfar wrote:I think you've missed the point of the discussion.


Quite possibly the single most comical thing ever said in the history of humanity.

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