People,
you attack each other please stop.
The actual thread was the door upgrade or whether 2 acc are logged to artificially generate more Rp.
The thread is slowly getting out of hand, but there are plenty of other threads where you can do this on the subject.

Satiah wrote:

Filters wrote:You didnt notice maybe we did many times already and the result is always the same, not enough people and you outnumber us, we cant fight each other too. Now ofc its a weird time since its like the first time i see so many people in hib. but usually we can barely make fg

Bullshit. You guys all transfer realm all at the same time. Let's see, Enna, Filters, Fremster, Wic, Shanulfia, Skurk (and maybe Litha once in a blue moon). That's atleast 6. Shouldn't be too hard to find 2 or 3 randoms. It's just now that you brought some hibs with you and also the Ripbro crew returned. Always complaining about the Romu zerg, yet you do exactly the same now. 2fg of albs max, 3fg of hibs.

There's actually a word for that, but then again, I cannot remember it.

It wouldn't surprise me however, if Skurk comes over to Albion to stir up some action. I heared he's good at that. Then transfer realm to farm the Albs again. I guess it is what it is.

Edit: And let me be clear, just incase you misunderstand. You could have a healthy RvR situation, if the a certain playerbase wasn't so toxic. More players would 8vs8, etc, etc. But it is what it is.

What the problem sir ? Even now we fg of random people and albs are more than us, still evading fight wtf

Filters wrote:What the problem sir ? Even now we fg of random people and albs are more than us, still evading fight wtf

You are actually that thick you'd think I would play this game at all right now? No, I don't care. It is what it is. PvE time, that is what it is.

Rudra wrote:People,
you attack each other please stop.
The actual thread was the door upgrade or whether 2 acc are logged to artificially generate more Rp.
The thread is slowly getting out of hand, but there are plenty of other threads where you can do this on the subject.

Honestly? Gtfo. You kicked me out of your discord. The one you (almost) started with me. Nobody on Albion has a clue who's upgrading the doors. If you didnt understand that weeks ago, you'll never will. But I guess I'm your enemy now, so it doesn't matter what I'll say.

Lets use the google translater for all it's worth Rudra:

Ich nutze die Liebe, die du bist, für das, was du bist.

Edit: You think it's fine for people to set the keep to level 9 and upgrade doors then switch realms to take the keeps? Because that's what these derps will do...

Get a few rps people defending too. Happy days.

Good morning,
I can already see that this is of no use.
Is my last post here, because it is irrelevant here.
I can distinguish very well between game and reality.
There is no enmity towards anyone on my part.

Rudra wrote:People,
you attack each other please stop.
The actual thread was the door upgrade or whether 2 acc are logged to artificially generate more Rp.
The thread is slowly getting out of hand, but there are plenty of other threads where you can do this on the subject.

I think you're doing out of good intent, but if you boil down your posts it's about Albs cheating.
I know you don't think all Albs cheat, but you put all Albs who take part in keep takes under suspecion.

It's poison to an already (almost) dead server, when you start acusing one side of cheating.
Threads with this kind of subject, will always end up as a ****-storm, it's never going to end up as happy cumbaya where we all hold hands and come to agreement.


The thread should have ended with Romus post:

Romu wrote:I dont think that anyone has two accounts to upgrade doors for RPs.

There are not many people left that play on that server, so why is it so bad to upgrade doors at unclaimed keeps to level 3 or 4, so that everyone can get some RPs? Remember that you need your enemy or you have nothing more to do. Last week we saw one of the active Hibs using guards from albion porter keep to flip every unclaimed hib keep to alb. So there were only Level 10 Keeps and it was easier to defend for hibs.

I know that it is a high risk for us to fight at a level 10 keep, but we still do it that there are at least some fights. But if there are only level 10 keeps with lots of shroomers and rangers inside, it is just suicide. What if we dont take any risks anymore and just wait inside keeps until the Hibs do something? Then there will be no fights anymore, noone gets RPs and noone has fun.

I never understood that "I dont want my enemies to get RPs". Why not? What is so bad if my enemies have fun and are motivated to come back next week? They will get some RAs, but that does not matter if they stop playing.

So lets try to work together that everyone has fun, or we all will loose

Spivo wrote:

Rudra wrote:People,
you attack each other please stop.
The actual thread was the door upgrade or whether 2 acc are logged to artificially generate more Rp.
The thread is slowly getting out of hand, but there are plenty of other threads where you can do this on the subject.

I think you're doing out of good intent, but if you boil down your posts it's about Albs cheating.
I know you don't think all Albs cheat, but you put all Albs who take part in keep takes under suspecion.

It's poison to an already (almost) dead server, when you start acusing one side of cheating.
Threads with this kind of subject, will always end up as a ****-storm, it's never going to end up as happy cumbaya where we all hold hands and come to agreement.


The thread should have ended with Romus post:

Romu wrote:I dont think that anyone has two accounts to upgrade doors for RPs.

There are not many people left that play on that server, so why is it so bad to upgrade doors at unclaimed keeps to level 3 or 4, so that everyone can get some RPs? Remember that you need your enemy or you have nothing more to do. Last week we saw one of the active Hibs using guards from albion porter keep to flip every unclaimed hib keep to alb. So there were only Level 10 Keeps and it was easier to defend for hibs.

I know that it is a high risk for us to fight at a level 10 keep, but we still do it that there are at least some fights. But if there are only level 10 keeps with lots of shroomers and rangers inside, it is just suicide. What if we dont take any risks anymore and just wait inside keeps until the Hibs do something? Then there will be no fights anymore, noone gets RPs and noone has fun.

I never understood that "I dont want my enemies to get RPs". Why not? What is so bad if my enemies have fun and are motivated to come back next week? They will get some RAs, but that does not matter if they stop playing.

So lets try to work together that everyone has fun, or we all will loose

When it comes to cheating, there definitely was a lot of mixed info, but I never implied all the keep takers cheat. My only suspicion is that Oriordan on hib (a guy who was online literally 20 hours a day, never ever joined any pve or RvR group and all he did was upgrade doors on lvl 1 keeps to lvl 6) is Respek or someone close to him. However, that's only my assumption and I if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

As far as Aok/Khaox/Hanko go, I have multiple screenshots and video recordings of them farming the same Mid characters over and over in lvl 50 battlegrounds. As I've said before, they didn't even try to hide it and did it just outside MPK at that lake lol. I have sent all of this to Abdyos weeks ago and got some weird answer from him, something about these videos not being the only criteria on deciding whether someone will get banned or not. Not sure what other criteria there would be anyway, lol. Mind you, the only reason why we started checking BGs for these people is because same Mid chars were from time to time repeatedly killed in Dodens or frontiers by Aok/Khaox, and then it stopped.

I even suggested to Abydos to consult with the devs (if he as a world builder doesn't have access to it) to check the database and to see how many times were those Mid characters killed by the same few Alb characters. It honestly would not surprise me if 90% of their RvR deaths came from same few Alb chars . One of the kills was particularly funny. I had true sight on and infi is standing opposite to the shaman and then at the same moment when the infi moves to do a PA, shaman sits down lol.

As far as the rest of Albs go, I really don't have problems with anyone. Someone's playstyle might not be what I like about this game, but DAOC offers freedom and server (such as it is) allows it so if I play here, it would be immature not to accept it or to take it personally in any way.

Valfar wrote:My only suspicion is that Oriordan on hib (a guy who was online literally 20 hours a day, never ever joined any pve or RvR group and all he did was upgrade doors on lvl 1 keeps to lvl 6) is Respek or someone close to him. However, that's only my assumption and I if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

What do you base these accusations on? What if you spread rumors and slander someone innocent? Do you not care about that?

Valfar wrote: A while back someone in alb group or bg said something like: "Thank Respek's friend for these nice doors". My guess is that it is Respek and this imaginary "friend" is his alter ego, but that's just my guess.

What was the actual quote? What is the context of the quote? Was it a joke because he was the group leader of some keep raids or meant literally? Or something else?

A bit unfair to accuse someone just because they were the group leader of keep takes and someone made a joke about the door levels.

fiskgrodan wrote:

Valfar wrote:My only suspicion is that Oriordan on hib (a guy who was online literally 20 hours a day, never ever joined any pve or RvR group and all he did was upgrade doors on lvl 1 keeps to lvl 6) is Respek or someone close to him. However, that's only my assumption and I if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

What do you base these accusations on? What if you spread rumors and slander someone innocent? Do you not care about that?

Valfar wrote: A while back someone in alb group or bg said something like: "Thank Respek's friend for these nice doors". My guess is that it is Respek and this imaginary "friend" is his alter ego, but that's just my guess.

What was the actual quote? What is the context of the quote? Was it a joke because he was the group leader of some keep raids or meant literally? Or something else?

A bit unfair to accuse someone just because they were the group leader of keep takes and someone made a joke about the door levels.

I have my reasons to suspect. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Nobody cares anyway, it's a dead server full of cheaters. You gotta stop watching a lot of bad TV lol, we're not in court son. Nothing will change in anyone's life because someone has suspicions of something/someone in a game. There are no innocents .

Valfar wrote:

fiskgrodan wrote:

Valfar wrote:My only suspicion is that Oriordan on hib (a guy who was online literally 20 hours a day, never ever joined any pve or RvR group and all he did was upgrade doors on lvl 1 keeps to lvl 6) is Respek or someone close to him. However, that's only my assumption and I if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

What do you base these accusations on? What if you spread rumors and slander someone innocent? Do you not care about that?

Valfar wrote: A while back someone in alb group or bg said something like: "Thank Respek's friend for these nice doors". My guess is that it is Respek and this imaginary "friend" is his alter ego, but that's just my guess.

What was the actual quote? What is the context of the quote? Was it a joke because he was the group leader of some keep raids or meant literally? Or something else?

A bit unfair to accuse someone just because they were the group leader of keep takes and someone made a joke about the door levels.

I have my reasons to suspect. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Nobody cares anyway, it's a dead server full of cheaters. You gotta stop watching a lot of bad TV lol, we're not in court son. Nothing will change in anyone's life because someone has suspicions of something/someone in a game. There are no innocents .

Let's agree to disagree.

I think that spreading rumors and lies about others is bad even if it is just a game.

A dead server with no active development on.

Realm ranks used to mean something. Wherever you played, either live or here.

Now it means nothing.

Wether it be alt logging in a bg to farm yourself, upping doors for whatever reason, or just steamrolling empty keeps.

I was never that high up on live, but I had a guild group every night to defend APK gate every night back on Prydwen and it was a blast. I even dinged my main up on HW to 50 during rvr(a tradition that should still be kept up,if everyone wasn't so elitist).

Many moons ago on live, I used to go grab a telemon or a pygmy goblin pet as a sorc, horse it up to Sauvage ready for rvr as it was funny to see one of those pets from the other side the realm just doing stuff whilst I was free casting of the wall. Good Times.

But that is when live had OF, even though TOA had launched.

Communities matter in a game of this scale, hence it went from 3k to pettiness and rp farming.

Double post

Wakefield wrote:Double post

Good stories deserves double-posts

My first major "RvR" experience was taking my lvl 40 healer to Albion, and finding a solo theurg in Pennine and kill him.
In OF, think 2002, remember Pennine as hell to navigate back then as well


And your major point, that commity is what matters is so true... when action dies, people start getting greedy and in the end, people will start to RP cheat.
The instant gratification on the new servers (constant drops, ToA bonuses etc...) are not my thing, but they as least have people playing them, and staff doing stuff.

Let's agree to disagree.

I think that spreading rumors and lies about others is bad even if it is just a game.

Fair enough .

Rudra wrote:I can distinguish very well between game and reality.
There is no enmity towards anyone on my part.

Hah. That's funny.

Last thing I remember was getting yelled at by someone. As long as I was on another realm, I was the enemy. I left the chat because of that and next thing you know, I get kicked out of your channel.

Tuthmes — 26.07.2023 22:50
It's actually so dumb
[22:50]
People I used to respect and consider my friends
[22:51]
Are beeing idiots

Tuthmes — 26.07.2023 23:05
So there's no reflection at all?
[23:06]
Albion and Romu is the enemie
[23:06]
Fk the server
[23:06]
Let's farm it till it dies (Bearbeitet)