if there were so many people that wanna zerg, they could zerg and kill the elite groups...

but i think there are just some people that are not good enough to find group and just can get RPs while adding.

if you think zerg is the way to play, build a zerg and come in agra. nobody would be able to kick you if they don't zerg and that's fun... but maybe people will just leave you alone zerging in an empty agramon.

mfassben wrote:Flamingfury,play the way you want and let others play the way they want oki?

I do play the way I want, and I do let others play the way they want. It's the newbs that try to forbid people to participate in RvR (not letting them "add", not inviting them into groups etc.) who aren't letting others play the way they want.

I don't give a flying f*ck if you don't let more people of your realm join the fight, it's your own damn fault, but then don't complaing about hibernia "zerging" saying "zerg is no skill" and bs like that. It's your own fault for making a single perfect high rr setup group thinking you can take on the world, then be proven wrong and as end result of your poor playstyle you resort to blaming others instead of yourself i.e calling me ignorant when I view daoc from the full aspect an mmorpg can have, theoretically limitless possibilities this gameworld provides. Those possibilities which you yourself limit, so ruthlessly, again ruining the experience for many others.

You don't have any grounds to call me ignorant since me and my friends who created the guild Sound of Inevitability singlehandedly saved many hibernian players from deprive of agramon rvr by inviting random people into our groups, and creating more groups if necessary ( which some call zerging, apparently everything above one 8 man team is a zerg ). Maybe if some other people had the same idea, you wouldn't be here whining about adding, losing, getting zerged and generally being mad at me for who knows what reason other then the fact that I'm right and you know it.

Again, to answer the quote in short: I'm playing my way, I'm not limiting anyone, you are, I don't care play as you want, only for your information YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.

Well,you told me to leave the server,you call me noob,you insult me in every single topic and you say i play wrong.Well,yes,thats what i call ignorant and arrogant As i said,play your way,but leave mine alone.Yes,i do log if the only enemys out are 16+ Players against those i play with have no chance.So what?If your way of playing is so right,there should be no prob to find 16 mids that think you are right and that would be glad to play against you.

Btw. you wanna force me to invite everybody into grp who asks for grp?Rofl...nothing to say to that .Again this *my way is the right way,do like i tell you,cause i know better* ****** ...you contradict yourself in the same post all the time and don´t even realize it.Kinda sad,but funny at the same time,saying you don´t limit any1 to do anything,but you limit DaoC to Zerg

P.S.
Your name is right on the Spot,all you do is flame,flame,flame

mfassben wrote:Well,you told me to leave the server

No, I just stated it as an option for the perpetual whiners.

mfassben wrote:you call me noob

It wasn't directed specifically at you, as the quote above, to the whiners.

mfassben wrote:you insult me in every single topic

What ?

mfassben wrote:and you say i play wrong

Yes, you fail to grasp the base concept of an mmorpg. It's like an airplane pilot trying to towtruck an airbus instead of flying it.

mfassben wrote:Well,yes,thats what i call ignorant and arrogant

You should google the words ignorant and arrogant, as you keep using them out of context.

mfassben wrote:As i said,play your way,but leave mine alone.

I explained this in my previous post, twice. If you care to read it before replying I'd appreciate it.

mfassben wrote:Yes,i do log if the only enemys out are 16+ Players against those i play with have no chance.So what?

Yet you wonder why I call you noob

mfassben wrote:If your way of playing is so right,there should be no prob to find 16 mids that think you are right and that would be glad to play against you.

Without a doubt, if some people weren't such asswipes yes, more and more people would come to agramon. Believe me, hibernia was the worst in that aspect. My guild managed to change that, thinking the same way I do.

mfassben wrote:Btw. you wanna force me to invite everybody into grp who asks for grp?Rofl...nothing to say to that .

Not everybody, but you shouldn't shun people off for not playing on uthgard for 3 years or being below rr6. Your ability to comprehend simple text is incredibly poor btw (there you go, I actually flamed you now so you have grounds to complain on)

mfassben wrote:Again this *my way is the right way,do like i tell you,cause i know better* ******

You call it ******, I call it reality.

mfassben wrote:you contradict yourself in the same post all the time and don´t even realize it.

I'm afraid the error is coming from your part, you fail to comprehend written text in English.

mfassben wrote:Kinda sad,but funny at the same time,saying you don´t limit any1 to do anything,but you limit DaoC to Zerg

No, I'm just saying if people want to RvR, who the hell are you to stop them ?

mfassben wrote:Your name is right on the Spot,all you do is flame,flame,flame

Yeah, sorry for trying to rectify the crappy RvR environment people like you created on Uthgard over the years. Here, have a tissue.

Well,the first quotes you made were not directed against me in personal,but to all who have the opinion that 8vs8 (or equal fights in General) are more fun.And i DO have this opinion.

Next Quote:

MMORPG means massive multiplayer online roleplay game.This does NOT mean that you have to take the biggest amount of players possible to do something in a game.It just means that there are many players online,playing the same roleplay game.And of those players every1 is free to chose with WHO and HOW he wants to play,and no one may try to force him to do it otherwise (this includes grping and,again,playingstyle).

Next Quote:

Arrogance in your case means, you say your and ONLY YOUR opinion is right, and all that have another opinion simply fail to grasp what your mighty and wise intellect has grasped.

Ignorance in your case means, that you are not able to accept or understand any opinion besides yours, and the moment you read something you don´t agree with, you start to flame flame flame.

Next Quote:

You don´t seem to be able to leave those you call *elitist assholes* alone and let them play the way they want to,do you?You flame against them in every topic that gives you an Opportunity to do so.Don´t wanna know how it is ingame tbh.

Next Quote:

If i can´t play in a way i enjoy,i quit.Its as simple as that.

Next Quote:

I won´t stop them from zerging,i will simply avoid the zones they play in and i won´t participate,in your eyes thats no big loss anyways so why do you bother?

Next Quote:

I usually give everybody a chance to proove that he can play,and if ppl are noob i try to teach them as long as they listen to what i say and are willing to improve.Seems you don´t know ****** about me do you?Maybe you should ask Deh/Cloudi/many others before you imply things on me...

Next 2 Quotes:

Ok.Here we are again.On one hand you say, let us play our way (Zerg vs Zerg,uneven grps,what so ever) cause its OUR way to play,if you don´t agree on it don´t take part.On the other hand you tell ppl how they have to play and try to force them to do things they don´t want to do.
Thats contradicting.Either you accept them doing their thing,or you must live with them telling you what to do without flaming.

Next Quote:

I won´t stop anybody from doing RvR, i simply won´t play with them if i don´t see any fun in it.Thats my free decision and you can´t do nothing against it.

Last quote is flame flame flame again,so nothing more to add.

i feel insulted by flamingfury's post and it's not the first time. i think he brings a bad feeling on forum and kill any discutions. that's not the first time and even not the 2° or 3° time he does it. do we need a poll to vote if we think that something should be done to change his way to post?

panachier wrote:i feel insulted by flamingfury's post

panachier wrote:i think he brings a bad feeling on forum and kill any discutions.

It's a mistake, You should not think he is insulting you only because his words are sharper than yours.

panachier wrote:...we think that something should be done to change his way to post?

Trying to censure what you cant manage/understand is not a good thing, even more when you are putting your words in our mouths.

Flamingfury try to explain the mmorpg intention, and you attack him because you live DAoC like a LAN play. (Team vs Team)

We should try to be constructive, seeing positive aspects from each player's words.
Pana, the way you want that RvR be in uthgard is not working, so lets try another thing.


PD: my eng is short, and may sound rude. I'm sorry if anyone get offended. it is not my intention.

Please avoid flame and stay kind.

i am not complaining about what he says, i am complaining the way he does it.

i feel insulted in all his posts and i think there is nothing constructiv. but maybe i am the only one and so the problem is on my side.

but i think it s not friendly to call "noob" or things like that. so i feel insulted and i think such way to post has not his place on the uthgard's forum.

sure you can defend your idea, but you have to accept the other's idea and don't dismissed them if they think in another way.

anyway who cares about the "most people prefere zerg" or "most people prefere fair fights"... if people prefere to zerg there will be zerg, if people prefere fair fights they'll do fair fights.

i just complain that some people that do really less than it got jailed and with mass bad posts no reaction from the staff...

i doubt more and more that the staff wanna keep his community alive...

panachier wrote:i feel insulted by flamingfury's post and it's not the first time.

Did I make you a saaaaad panda ?

panachier wrote:i think he brings a bad feeling on forum and kill any discutions.

Kill discussions ? Hell, I'm the one who kept this discussion alive until some people felt threatened by the sad truth so they changed to topic onto my behavior.

panachier wrote:do we need a poll to vote if we think that something should be done to change his way to post?

Actually this is quite flattering. Thanks <3

@ mfassben

When you'll be able to read + comprehend what you read instead of just running your own film in your mind regardless of the text you're reading I'll consider you worthy of replying again. Till then, have a nice trip.