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massivmampfer
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Postby massivmampfer » May 27, 2008 19:04

wizards can ice bomb or spec bolt/nuke and debuff their nukes with leg staffs...especially as bomb its very hard with debuff staff. Elds can only debuff their nukes/bolts but bomb is energy.

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Postby Gonby » May 28, 2008 16:12

i'm lvl 28 with 28 in fire...
what do you think with:
augmented dext
serenity
etheral bond
wild power
master of pain

?

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Postby Darkpandora » May 28, 2008 16:18

Gonby wrote:i'm lvl 28 with 28 in fire...
what do you think with:
augmented dext
serenity
etheral bond
wild power
master of pain

?


why mastery of pain it is only 4 melee crits?^^ but mcl , mastery of magery , wild power, aug dex, aug acu and purge were gut ra´s:P
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Postby Gonby » May 28, 2008 16:28

yes your right, i copy the line just under but it's magery in my mind

tkx for your reply darkpandora

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Postby wla » May 28, 2008 23:03

Wizards need a serious balance review. I dont like classes that seem to have no real use.


on life, a firewizz ****** ur head with only 2 bolts + 2 nukes. they are very dangerous in casters grps, esp. with a fire debuff

on uth u need a lot more nukes :/ but i dont think thats its only the the toa boni on live what makes the wizzard that strong. even with a fire debuff, he is useless :D

maybe there were different dmg calcs for the wizzard at present daoc versions? and we just got the wrong one?
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Postby Maidrion » May 29, 2008 00:18

Demiurgo wrote:With every caster if you meet a charge tank you can start typing /rel

To go solo you can choose a tank but you will get killed by higher rr/better equipped tanks.
Imo the best char to solo are some caster (sorc, theurg, cab, eld, ench, rm, sm and bd both with implemented pet :D).

With a caster, if you play well, you can kill every kind of tanks even higher rr and you have always a chance to kill other casters and stealthers.

Actually the best for me are:
1- Sorcerer rr5+ with ichor and purge2 = can kill all, also charge tanks, all other casters, everything, some problem witht eld with rr5 on :D
2- Theurghist with a minimum of wind spec = will kill everything except charge tanks (or even them, if you manage well the fight....) and problem with eld rr5+ on
3- Runemaster soppr spec = kill no-speed caster and hybrid/heavy tanks, will die against charge tanks, stealthers with purge and usual eld rr5^
4- Eldtrich light spec = Problem with hybrids and det tanks, some casters but with rr5 can kill almost everything if well played
5- Eltrich mana spec = Heavy tanks farmer, rr5 own charge tanks but problem with most of casters but you can kill holz (but it will be your realm mate)

I put eld on last place because no speed=boring


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Postby Blue » May 29, 2008 12:36

I hink the damage formula for bolts is wrong on Uth. Its countered by AF and there is some research to do.
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Postby Ronian » May 30, 2008 01:04

Blue wrote:I hink the damage formula for bolts is wrong on Uth. Its countered by AF and there is some research to do.


Really? The hightest hit i ever got on Uth with my ranger was from a cave spec shamy... 600 Bolt and i was yellow con for him.

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Postby Meowness » Jun 19, 2008 04:15

blue, i want to kiss you

Eanladar, is a 50 earth spec wizard with remaining points into Fire.

With spec Earth bolt, delves for 303 base damage i think, i can usually hit an unbuffed caster for 450 to 520 damage, and can hit unbuffed melee for anywhere between 300 and 425. When encountering a melee, esp wardens and other tanks with shields, i usually HAVE to rely on decimation trap for damage, as bolt is sometimes blocked by shield (pretty much halves the damage) I can see half of 450-520 damage being reasonable, but half of 300-425 is kinda bleh.

Hope this information helps.

I can take some screenshots of solo rvr damage if you want

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Postby salbei » Jun 19, 2008 05:07

bolts are fine as they are . they are correctly calculated by af/absorb - the damage range is normal the miss rate is a bit off though.

get some acuity + dex/qui charges along with dex potions and you will see it will work wonders for you . buffs are everything in this game.

the damage is fine as it is with the bolts - just use acu charge and get some passive damage boosting ra´s and you will be fine . before i respeced my runemaster to a more group friendly spec his bolts where fine - absolute no reason to complain .

just don´t mindlessly shoot everything with your bolts ... studded armor and below are your targets - everything wearing chain or plate is a NONO .you are better off with a DD on these targets.

i also got a wizzy (see sig. ) , ice specced . and i think the toon might not be blessed by the mythic gods with utility , but it has got enough to be competitive.

may think about giving him nearsight and aoe dots - but then dozens of other classes will demand the same 1.8x+ changes.

my rm was throwing bolts at 50´s bards/casters for 700+ (acu charge + mom4+aug.acu3). you really can´t complain about bolt damage . just boost your passives , use some charges and thats it .

was soloing in rvr most of the time in old emain till rr5 and the only thing worth complaining about is the horrible miss rate (but well , just read some live forums and there are the same complains - so it must be ok). and i think i know what i am writing about.
my ra spec was raw damage - no toys ! no mcl no purge ! no crappy decimation trap - just raw passive damage . was able to kill fulltanks before they get into stick range. bolt bolt debuff (simultaniously using 331 dd charge with cold damage) , 2 nukes and thats it. ~ 2k damage in less than 7 seconds. can´t do that ****** anymore since i´m group specced :(

from my memories it was like:
350-450 on chain armor (depending on resists and af-charge used)
400-600 on studded/reinforced (depending on class).
550-800 on cloth (PD,af charge, spec af - all these are huge factors)
all hits WITHOUT critical hits , and my rm is just rr5 . and damage goes up again each full rr up.
hits are from the spec bolt , baseline bolt is about 50 damage less.
without acuity charge its about -100 damage.

quite decent damage if you ask me. and fire wiz got higher delve bolts / DD than rc specc´d runemasters get ... so it should make up for the lack of utility.

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Postby Blue » Jun 19, 2008 12:58

Unfortunately bolt damage was never really tested on live. It contains some guesses about bolt/AF calculation so its not correct. I cant say whether the damage is too low or too high but most players will always tell its too low nonetheless.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
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[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

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Postby Darkpandora » Jun 19, 2008 21:03

i sayed at the dez 2007 that the dmg of the wizard bolt are wrong ...:D

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Postby Blue » Jun 23, 2008 13:19

I said in 2005 that the bolt damage is wrong and not tested ;)
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."


Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

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Postby Darkpandora » Jun 23, 2008 15:09

k then sry: :wink:
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Postby Meowness » Jun 24, 2008 00:13

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